JB and Sabia.png — **Tara and Gina crush on Sabia and JB, the leaders showing up for Birthing Advocacy Doula Trainings.**

**These four share how they all got to know one another through their commitment to doula care and reproductive health and talk about what makes the cocktail of friendship and work stay savory.**

Jenna “JB” Brown (they/he) is a full-spectrum doula, community educator, and creator, with a passion for pelvises, humans, trauma-informed care, and the complexities of Justice. As a trans non-binary person, they are practiced in the art (and awkwardness) of transition, and he brings this knowing and compassion to his work as a doula and educator, supporting individuals and families through their own transformations in conception, pregnancy, birth, postpartum and beyond by providing direct client work, resources, and community spaces. As a core teacher and the lead course content creator at Birthing Advocacy Doula Trainings (BADT), JB works with students and professionals to be partners and accomplices in the movement to change the current birth environment locally, nationally and globally. In addition to work in the perinatal space, JB provides advocacy, education, mentorship, and consulting work around gender, both for trans, gender non-conforming, and non-binary people, as well as folks looking to include these individuals in their work.

Sabia is a full spectrum doula, educator, and elevating the voices and experiences of marginalized communities. She is the CEO of Birthing Advocacy Doula Trainings, as well as her non-profit, For The Village, which provides low income and marginalized communities with free doula services. She embraces her role as a liberator of self by birthing new and hidden aspects of individuals while nurturing the spaces within them that have never known love, all with the goal of autonomy, justice, and equity for all.

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What We Cover:

8:27 Adulting on how to make friends?
10:15 horizontal connections
12:28 JB talks about building out their working process and building trust for decision making
13:28 friend time and work time boundaries
14:25 double sagittarius = getting straight to the point
18:50 dom and fawn
24:43 Cancel culture in friendship? Big N-O to that.
32:08 sitting and seeing the world differently
32:45 JB points out that thinking through the language we use is the first step into conversations with each other
33:00 loving the work and also needing a fucking break
38:45 for profit and nonprofit social impact org’s are on the rise. And your tax ID doesn’t matter.
46:27 Sabia and JB are carrying the weight together
47:40 We all should buy a bus
48:29 tonsillitis means you’ll slob on a rag, especially if your over 30
51:37 pod-mapping to lock-it-down
54:35 it’s all drag
57:00 audacity and unconditional love
1:01:00 aligning for community over competition